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Honda NSX vs Porsche 911

Right off the bat, I know what you’re thinking: You’d buy the Porsche, right? On what basis?

This story first appeared in the May 2002 issue of MOTOR

Because it’s a proper performance car? Believe me, Bucko, so is the other hot-rod being caned up and down Calder’s main straight right now. Oh, I see, the 911 has pedigree, does it? Why didn't you say so?

Listen, if you ever had to name a Japanese car that had breeding, you’d be hard pressed to think of a better example than the Honda NSX. The sexy, alloy-bodied Honda was J-Inc’s first real foray into proper mid-engined exotica, and it proved the point that high performance didn’t necessarily mean duff interiors and dodgy ergonomics.

Now that we’ve got that lot out of the way, what’s really going on here? Without getting into a grinding justification of this unholy pairing, let’s just say that at $254,500 and $186,000, the NSX Targa (there’s a fixed-lid coupe for $11k less) and 911 respectively are, if not in the same ball-park, at least in the same suburb of a very rarefied place.

Honda v porscheThey also share similar aspirations in terms of moving themselves and their passengers along at improbable velocities with a good dose of entertainment as part of the deal. But right there, a good-sized percentage of the similarities disappear.

On one hand we have the establishment; the Porsche 911 with its rear-mounted flat-six, atmospheric aspiration and rear-drive. It’s a nominal four-seater, but unless you’re the cruel type, the rear seat is for soft luggage only.

The Honda is also a six-cylinder, also atmospheric and also drives its rear wheels. It is, however, a V6, mounted amidships, and it’s strictly a two-seater. It also screams old-school EXOTIC, from its cab-forward proportions to its w-i-d-e rear track and swoopy glasshouse.

The 911 is utterly, utterly familiar provided you recognise the fact that the Zuffenhausen factory continues to take big steps forward without ruining the dream. Yet, as far as I know, it has never – water-cooling notwithstanding – taken a backward one (not in 911 history, anyway). The latest version of old faithful is improved to the tune of a bigger, 3.6-litre mill, and some sensitive fine-tuning across the board.

Porsche 911 driving frontWith a PULP-friendly compression ratio of 11.3:1 and Variocam (Porsche’s in-house variable valve lift and duration) the flat-six drones out 235kW of seamless grunt at 6800rpm and 370Nm at 4250rpm.

The 3.2-litre Vee in the NSX runs a lower 10.2:1 compression ratio but still gets variable valve timing (VTec, in this case) and, interestingly, only the six-speed manual gets the new engine with its 3mm bigger bore. The auto stays with the 3.0-litre version.

The end result is an artificial one in the sense that the Japanese safety-schneds insist that no vehicle built in Nippon shall have more than 206kW lurking at its flywheel. Keeping within the letter of that law (if not the spirit) the NSX boasts precisely that power figure, developed at 7300rpm, and 304Nm at 5300 rpm.

Compare those figures and you’ll see that the Honda makes less power at higher revs and a hefty 64 fewer Nms, also at considerably higher revs. And if you know your bench racing, that should translate to a slower car with less flexibility. You’d be half right. Yes, the 911 murders the NSX across the standing 400 metres by a full second and, yes, it’s also feistier gear for gear by a noticeable margin.

But that completely ignores the suppleness of the Honda engine which, thanks to VTec, manages to make useable power from 2000rpm all the way to about 7500rpm. So while it won’t actually stay with the Porker, in isolation it’s an amazingly flexible piece of gear, especially for something with a torque peak at 5300rpm.

Honda nsx driving rearAnd forget about that 8000rpm redline; at that point it’s sounding strained and it’s no slower to shift at 7500rpm. The only real problem it has here is that it’s up against the world’s best six-cylinder engine (except BMW’s M3, of course).

The 911’s claim to that mantle extends to the aural treat in store for you, too. The Variocam gets serious about 5200rpm at which point the wail from the flat six changes from warm honey to bandsaw-through-Bonn-Scott as it tags the redline. The only time the boxer-motor feels a bit wholegrain is at idle when there’s a tiny amount of mechanical noise and vibration that disappears at the tiniest blip on the loud pedal.

The Honda just can’t match that act and while it’s smooth and composed, it just never gives that impression of being something truly special. There’s a rumble of vibration as revs pass through about 2000rpm that feels like a bit of rocking-couple (a secondary vibe inherent in most engines) combined with too-hard engine mounts. Ultimately, though, it feels contrived rather than a consequence of an engine with its nuts tuned off.

Either car is a lesson to other manufacturers on how to make a six-speed gearbox a viable proposition rather than a marketing plot. Top gear in both is completely useable, with the flexibility allowing the tackling of hills and even gentle overtaking without a downshift. More significantly, fifth gear is also appropriate for typical arterial roads with an 80km/h limit, which is not something you can say for all such high performance gearboxes.

Porsche 911 sideOh, and shift quality? Brilliant in either car, but the Porsche just shades the Honda for the gorgeous, mechanical feel of its shifter, although it does need a bigger shove on the clutch pedal (and the brake pedal) for the same result.

Back when we laboured over PCOTY I floated a theory that Porsche had deliberately engineered a bit of mongrel back into the car. Most particularly, that the white-coats had dialled in some of that old-fashioned throttle-off oversteer into the equation.

Why? Because there were some out there who reckoned the original 996 was just too benign. As if water-cooling wasn’t bad enough, Porsche then goes and makes the 911 totally neutral. Bastards.

Frankly, I can’t see what’s wrong with any of that, but my bet is that Porsche has taken it personally and decided to give the mob what they want. And that means a rear end that can – and will – take the lead in the right (wrong?) circumstances.

Okay, so in the 2002 car, you’ve got to be going at about 10-10ths and you’ve got to brake late as you turn into a (preferably off-camber) corner, but some will try it. And they will – in some cases – suddenly be granted a window-seat for a view of where they’ve just been.

That’s not to say that we’re back to the old rock-on-a-string days that defined the original 911, but unlike the 3.4-litre 996, the Carrera no longer feels dumkopf-proof. That contrasts with the NSX which is so neutral it’s almost other-worldly. In fact, even once you’ve run out of suspension travel and you clobber a big mid-corner bumper, all four wheels will skip sideways, which is an amazing illustration of how balanced it is.

NSX driving straightThe rest of the time, you just hurl it into a corner, wait for the apex and plant the slipper. It’s easy, comes naturally and also means the Honda is as quick as the 911 on any road where the latter’s superior grunt doesn’t come into it.

While the 911’s rear end is a potentially very active participant – and makes itself felt at even moderate speeds – the NSX makes use of its long wheelbase (a whopping 180mm more than the 911) and merely feels as if its just harmlessly dragging its arse around, leaving all the tricky stuff to the front end.

What’s even more amazing is that the bastion of handling with acceptable ride, the 911, gets a bit of a pasting in that very department. The NSX has better small bump compliance and at the same time, less body-roll. That’s partly due to the monster track (1540mm at the rear) that helps cancel out the roll, but it also feels better damped in most situations.

That’s not to say the 911 is a dray, far from it, and while my description of it as ‘jigglier than the Honda’ had Hawley in fits, I’m sticking with it. Trying to separate ‘lively’ from ‘tactile’ is never easy, but one area where the Honda just can’t match the German is in the way they convey info back to the driver.

Porsche 911 carrera seatsThere’s plenty to like about the way the NSX feels a bit go-karty in its steering – your feet feel like they’re in line with the front axle – but the tiller just doesn’t talk like the one in the 911.

The Porsche just never stops feeding back quality info about what’s under the front tyres, which way they’re pointing and what you can expect to happen next. Accurate and quick though it is, the NSX’s steering lacks that level of communication. It’s worst at the straight-ahead and small wheel deflections reveal bugger all self-centring.

In fact, tug on a fraction of lock, take your hands off the wheel and the NSX will continue to scribe the same radius. It’s a bit spooky, to be honest, and I wouldn’t mind betting the electrically-assisted power-steering is the culprit.

Whether you value the clinical efficiency of the Honda over the three-ring circus that is the Porsche is up to you. But even women’s magazines recognise the fact that marrying for looks/money tends to be a short term solution, while relationships based on a mutual ability to provide laughs usually lasts a lot longer. (Where’d that come from?)

NSX frontSpeaking of looks, ain’t it amazing that Porsche can keep building the same basic shape for decades, yet still crank out something contemporary? Was it just ‘right’ in the first place? Probably.

The Honda? Hmmmm. Can’t help but thinking that it’s starting to look a bit dated. Remember back in the ’80s and early ’90s when everybody was building ‘supercars’ (Bugatti, McLaren, Lamborghini et al)? Well, the basic proportions of the NSX ring too many bells from those days for me. Likewise the cabin looks like it’s pretty generic Honda of a generation ago.

It’s cramped, too, and anybody over about 180cm is going to find headroom tight. Even little things like the ignition key being too far away for taller folk start to get annoying. Oh, and how come the driver’s door, bootlid and engine cover need such a huge slam every time to shut them properly?

Despite having the same adjustable-for-reach-only steering column, the 911 boasts a more rational driving position and much easier entry/exit. There’s more room in every direction and while it doesn’t quite have the same boot space as the NSX, there’s always that back seat for extra storage. And you’ve gotta love that instrument cluster.

Driving uphillHad Porsche decided to rest on its laurels back in the air-cooled days, the NSX would be a clear winner here. Even in its first incarnation, the mid-engined Honda proved that true high performance could be combined with civility and sophistication and none of the crook gearshift/crap ride/floor-hinged-pedals/over-centre-clutch/cranky motor that previously defined exotica.

Only problem now is that the game has moved on and even the supercar establishment like the 911 (actually, especially the 911) is as civilised as anybody could ever want. The real magic of the 911 is that it retains all those elements that made it so fabulous back when dinosaurs roamed the Earth, yet it’s managed to adapt and evolve to the point where it’s still, by any standards, one of the most sensuous, involving cars you can buy at any money. That it’s a full 70 grand less than the NSX is the final nail in the Big H’s coffin.

So yeah, I know what you’re thinking... and you’d be right. You’d buy the Porsche.

Future Primitive

Honda nsx futureBack in the '80s, you weren't a player unless you built a supercar

The trend spawned all sorts of lunacy, from the gothic-looking Bugatti EB110, right through to the aerospace-inspired Vector out of the US. Some made it; the McLaren F1 and Jaguar XJ220 stand out as examples worth owning, but of them all, only one was the sort of thing you’d stick granny in to do the shopping.

And wouldn’t you know it, it was Honda that managed to bridge the gap between mid-engined layout and real-world driveability. The first NSX lobbed in 1991 with a 3.0-litre V6 and 188 kW. There was a choice of four-speed auto or five-speed manual, although the manual was the clear performance leader since the engine wasn’t exactly a torque factory.

The wheels and tyres went from 15-inch front/16-inch rear to 16-inch front/17-inch rear in 1994, and the NSX-T (Targa) model lobbed in 1995. At the same time, the auto got a steering wheel-mounted paddle shift, and in 1997 the 3.2-litre mill was specified for the manual versions, along with the six-speed ’box.

What’s perhaps most interesting is that the latest version isn’t radically different to the original. Then again, since most of the other supercars are now landfill, the whole market segment hasn’t really moved on.

Meantime, the things that bugged the NSX then are the same things that make us groan now. Namely, the way it’s so drivable at the expense of a little excitement; and, of course, the monstrous price-tag. Even in 1991, it was a whopping $170,000.
Mind you, a 911 Carrera was only about five grand cheaper back then, making the German car the real bargain these days.

So where to now for Honda’s friendly supercar? The much touted V8 didn’t arrive in time for this update and may never happen. Probably the closest hint for NSX direction is the Dualnote concept car spotted on the Honda stand at the last Tokyo motorshow. The Hybrid get its primary motivation from a 3.5-litre V6. Apparently, it is quicker than the current NSX.

Don’t hold your breathe for production, though.

Honda NSX vs Porsche 911 racing


  Honda NSX Targa Porsche 911 Carrera
0-10km/h 0.43 0.30
0-20km/h 0.81 0.65
0-30km/h 1.18 0.98
0-40km/h 1.72 1.31
0-50km/h 2.29 1.76
0-60km/h 2.87 2.19
0-70km/h 3.76 2.98
0-80km/h 4.29 3.60
0-90km/h 5.12 4.22
0-100km/h 6.04 4.98
0-110km/h 7.23 5.74
0-120km/h 8.27 6.88
0-130km/h 9.53 7.88


14.24 @ 162.7 km/h

13.17 @ 174.5 km/h


  Honda NSX Targa Porsche 911 Carrera
Body two-door coupe two-door coupe
Drive rear-wheel rear-wheel
Engine mid-mounted 3.2-litre DOHC 24-valve V6 rear-mounted 3.6-litre DOHC, 24-valve flat-six
Power 206kW @ 7300rpm 235kW @ 6800rpm
Torque 304Nm @ 5300rpm 370Nm @ 4250rpm
Compression Ratio 10.2:1 11.3:1
Bore x stroke 93mm x 78mm 100mm x 76.4mm
Weight 1425 kg 1345 kg
Weight/power 6.9 kg/kW 5.7 kg/kW
Specific power 64.4 kW/litre 65.3 kW/litre
Transmission six-speed manual  six-speed manual 
Suspension double wishbone, coil springs, 
anti-roll bar (f); double wishbone, coil springs, anti-roll bar (r)
MacPherson struts, coil springs, anti-roll bar (f); independent multi-link, coil springs, anti-roll bar (r)
L/W/H 4430/1810/1175 mm 4430/1770/1305 mm
Wheelbase 2530 mm 2350 mm 
Tracks 1510 mm (f); 1540 mm (r) 1465 mm (f); 1480 mm (r)
Brakes 298 mm ventilated discs, four-piston calipers (f); 303 mm cross-drilled discs, two-piston calipers (r), ABS ventilated and cross-drilled, four-piston calipers (f); ventilated and cross-drilled discs, two-piston calipers (r), ABS
Wheels 17 x 7-inch (f); 17 x 9-inch (r), alloy 17 x 7-inch (f); 17 x 9-inch (r), alloy
Tyres Bridgestone S02 215/40 ZR17 (f); 255/40 ZR17 (r)  Pirelli P Zero Rosso, 205/50 ZR17 (f); 255/40 ZR (r)
Fuel 70 litres, PULP 64 litres, PULP
Price $254,000 $186,000



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